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General Discussion / Re: help with bus
« Last post by levissima on February 07, 2019, 11:39:08 AM »
What a nightmare, Iím so sorry you had that experience and I canít really think of much you could do if you happen across such rogues. Is the builders debt still owing or has it been written off by his bankruptcy?

General Discussion / Re: help with bus
« Last post by 1215robbo on February 07, 2019, 11:09:42 AM »
hi i dont want to put people off buying a new home in italy .it started with us over 10 years ago we were planing to buy something cheap and do up (rob being a builder)we were with the agency that was at the time at the airport.after a lot of thought we decided to take out a mortgage with an Italian back with the help from the agent.we signed at the bank and went to the builders the next day and signed the first was just the agent and the builder.a few weeks later we were told we could not have the mortgage.we lost about 15000euro.some months later we were asked if we would still like to buy .we took out a mortgage  in England and moved into the apartment ready to sign within weeks.we lived in the apartment for 8months and no nearer signing.we left with a letter signed that we would get most of  the money back within a year.nothing happened and we took him to court .we won the case and he had to pay interest.after another 2years we paid the court at teramo to have 2 flats and a garage taken to  be sold (we could have had one of the flats but they all had a mortgage  )we had to pay the court 3times to advertise them.we never had any contact from the court to us or our June 15 we had an appointment with guardia di finanza with an interpreter and was with them for over 3 hours .the paper work including email to tell us to pay money into the builders account so he could avoid paying tax.we found out later at the same time the courts gave the flats back to the builder and he sold them and then went bankrupt.   joan   
Taxes / Re: Tax on pension
« Last post by Murphy123 on February 06, 2019, 09:07:09 PM »
Thank you for trying to shed some light on this problem... still confused.... but thank you for your help everyone... 👍👍
Taxes / Re: Tax on pension
« Last post by RedSauce on February 06, 2019, 06:19:16 PM »

Thx for your thoughts..........

I have had two different commercialistas interpret this completely differently  ??? >:( :'(

General Discussion / Re: Brits in italy
« Last post by Cesare Rinato on February 06, 2019, 06:00:31 PM »
Pretty sure that the tessera sanitaria does not cover you elsewhere in Europe. When I first came here a women at the local ASLA took my card to have it changed because she said that it was not Italy's responsibility to cover my health whilst traveling. If you are a Brit, you should have a EHIC which covers your medical and health needs throughout the EU. That is until the end of March. After that your guess is as good as who ever is currently negotiating on behalf of what is laughingly called the British Government.   
Taxes / Re: Tax on pension
« Last post by GeordieBorn on February 06, 2019, 05:21:48 PM »
Iíve looked at this document a few times before, very good if you canít sleep! It is horrible as itís written to be read in either country. It uses those awful terms "a Contracting State" and "the other Contracting State". I believe Article 18 covers the state pension and (think) itís saying your UK pension is only taxable in the UK. If you can keep awake and read some of the other taxable assets it seems to be using the term "the other Contracting State" where income from the UK could be taxed in Italy if you are fiscal resident there. I think royalties and interest are good/easy examples.
Reference to Article 19 is down to ďstate employmentĒ and covers government private pensions and some local bodiesí pensions. Iím sure I read somewhere before that this was originally used for the likes of embassy staff, forces etc. but was expanded to cover more than that at some point.
Iím sure this could be read differently by many and I certainly would hate to have to argue any of this with HMRC, let alone the AdE in Italy.
Doctors, dentists, hospitals / Re: Dentist desperately needed!
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Taxes / Re: Tax on pension
« Last post by RedSauce on February 06, 2019, 02:57:24 PM »
What does it mean !??

 ??? ??? ???
Taxes / Re: Tax on pension
« Last post by GeordieBorn on February 06, 2019, 01:08:22 PM »
Not that it makes any more sense RedSauce, but I thought I recognised the text... Ha! Not.. :-[ Just a good guess, it's the DTA with the UK and Italy, here is the English version, look at Article 19.
Taxes / Re: Tax on pension
« Last post by Venatore on February 06, 2019, 12:26:59 PM »
A scenario worthy of  Samuel Beckett himself.
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