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Sales and purchases / Re: Terremoti
« Last post by dolcevita on November 11, 2016, 09:34:36 AM »
I suppose the inhabitants want to eventually return and rebuild their communities however tiny and this is important to them? Even Italians who left in the 50's like to return for the village festas and to reconnect with friends and relatives.

If money was unlimited I can see great opportunities for architects to redesign the centers with new earthquake proof housing.But it isn't so I'm presuming maybe wrongly that the rebuilding will mean recreating what existed with historically important buildings being restored?

Its possible to make the towns look as they did with stone houses and things like old doors and stone frames that look so beautiful and bring in tourists but that is a very expensive option.not sure what will happen?

As someone said earlier after the Trump victory we are all living in an earthquake zone and I'm no safer in my cornish house than anyone in shaky Abruzzo :o
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Sales and purchases / Re: Terremoti
« Last post by Relaxed on November 11, 2016, 01:56:14 AM »
Oh dear, Cassius, I think you are talking about a Trumpemoto.

Dunno (honestly) what impact this 'unexpected' development will have on Italy: we are not in a Le Pen situation (however much hysteria is being flogged about M5S, and Renzi's (perhaps unwise) referendum).

But on the earthquake front, I'm just trying to say it does get easier the more tremors you experience! I'm irresponsiby blasť about shakey stuff. If you know that you are basically in a 'sound' house - then why on earth do you panic and rush out in your pyjamas? Let's be honest - almost nobody on this forum is in any personal danger whatsoever. 

We can (and should) sympathise (and help even in whatever tiny way we can) with the evacuees, and those who are sensibly asked to leave their houses 'just in case' - and often it is a pretty terminal disaster for communities.

That's the big problem - and Renzi is promising 'the earth'- and he cannot realistically deliver - I mean what is the point in rebuilding Castelluccio? It's a bit like that there was maybe 'an important rare newt there' - but who can afford a billion to save  the newt/lentil.

Sense should prevail.

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Sales and purchases / Re: Terremoti
« Last post by Cassius on November 09, 2016, 10:50:59 AM »
I spent last Christmas in Lancashire where roads were blocked by the rain and floods and people's homes ruined and lives changed forever. A home uninsurable, a home unsellable, a home uninhabitable.
Where can one sit safe and smug?

After this mornings news I think the number of places has  reduced considerably
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Sales and purchases / Re: Terremoti
« Last post by Wheppy on November 09, 2016, 07:44:56 AM »
I spent last Christmas in Lancashire where roads were blocked by the rain and floods and people's homes ruined and lives changed forever. A home uninsurable, a home unsellable, a home uninhabitable.
Where can one sit safe and smug?
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Sales and purchases / Re: Terremoti
« Last post by Vignaverde on November 09, 2016, 07:31:36 AM »
We need a like button.
Some people post things to wait for a reaction, quite sad really considering what has happened.
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Sales and purchases / Re: Terremoti
« Last post by Relaxed on November 09, 2016, 12:20:14 AM »
I like riso's upbeat post - go for it, you are right.

And also rsetzer - that is an interesting perspective from a long way away.

Look, face it, you have been overwhelmed by a fantastic view of beautiful mountains, fabulous air quality, just a wonderful (cheap!) place to live - so a little shakey bit every so often is not  a high price to pay. Or not?

I'm disturbed by dolcevita's hysteria.

Yes, your house shakes, (no worse than when the plumber is using his hammer drill to chase out the walls for pipework) but that you should be nervous about the world falling in on you - jeez - that is only going to happen if you are spot on the epicentre.

Honestly, for those of you experiencing the unrelenting aftershocks, I do know (honestly) what you are going through, psycholgically. I did my first big Itailan earthquake 20 years ago, and I remember a (New Zealand) neighbour saying - 'what earthquake'.

Really, (maybe this isn't any solace) - but I have the impression that nobody on this forum (Kid included) is in any sort of dire straits. Nasty, frightening, bloggable stuff - but hardly life threatening.

I welcome flak :)
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Sales and purchases / Re: Terremoti
« Last post by Vignaverde on November 08, 2016, 11:24:27 PM »
People who buy here are mostly very up on the effects on earthquakes and how seismic Italy is, believe it or not people who come here to buy are not wet behind the ears and are very careful with what they do with their well earned savings. Just as Shebar said, natural disasters and as an addition man made disasters (terrorism) can and do happen anywhere, we can only be thankful that we are not caught in the middle.

Dolce if you are looking for the number to text or call to donate I suggest you read all the current threads  :)
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Sales and purchases / Re: Terremoti
« Last post by rsetzer99 on November 08, 2016, 07:15:24 PM »


From what I have read, many of these faults are very shallow, and shallow faults cause much more damage. In Alaska, we had deep faults, so 4-5 magnitude quakes were often just shakers. My In-Laws however lived through the huge 1964 quake, and they are quite terrified of all quakes because of that.
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Sales and purchases / Re: Terremoti
« Last post by dolcevita on November 08, 2016, 02:40:25 PM »
I don't know why hostilities have to be stirred up around this topic?

If someone lives both in Italy and the UK who would blame them if they wanted to escape the turmoil and get a good night's sleep for a few weeks? I don't think it means they don't have any sympathy with what people in Italy are going through right now.

I personally refuse to use insults to get a point of view across. I do feel strongly, I read this today online :

On a bench in a camp outside what was left of Amartrice Elsa sat and cried.Her home had collapsed in the earthquake that had reduced the hilltop town to rubble.
Everything is destroyed,everything is broken said Elsa."We have nothing. Amartrice is finished.I wish I had died too.Im an old woman.What do I have to live for? "
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Sales and purchases / Re: Terremoti
« Last post by Riso on November 08, 2016, 01:04:07 PM »
Hi im selling my house in casabianca near castilenti I have had four people come from Belgium they don't seem to mind in fact one couple came to look a few hours after the aftershock. my house isn't an old house its 30 years old so was built with seismic blocks rather than stone. it feels a lot safer but we don't have any guaranties but I make sure I explain everything to people wanting to see the house. so to anyone out there still looking to buy in Abruzzo don't be put off by negative people the facts are choose wisely. im also going to buy another property here so not running away to uk would rather have a life here in the sun and in this Beautiful part of Italy than go back to a place I don't fit with anymore. so be positive live life and live your dreams..
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