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General Discussion / Re: Citizenship News
« Last post by GeordieBorn on Yesterday at 09:33:11 PM »
Hope you are all signingbthe Revoke Article 50 petition! It?s topped a million in a day!😎
Anyone wanting the link, it is here. Good luck if you try, it is very busy, hence hit and miss. Keep trying and you do get on eventually.  :(
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General Discussion / Re: Citizenship News
« Last post by levissima on Yesterday at 06:46:59 PM »
Hope you are all signingbthe Revoke Article 50 petition! It?s topped a million in a day!😎
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General Discussion / Re: Citizenship News
« Last post by iggle piggle on Yesterday at 12:46:32 PM »
In case this is useful info - my citizenship application which was accepted got annulled. I got a call this morning from the Prefettura being very helpful but apologetic saying that I didn't actually have the required level but that as soon as I passed the exam and got the right certificate, I could re-apply and all the existing documents would still be valid as long as I do it before mid June.

I said that that would be after Brexit though and I would no longer be an EU citizen - they said I would still be eligible to apply as I would still have all the same rights as now so it would be no problem.

I assume that this is thanks to the Italian government's legislation protecting UK citizen's rights even with a no deal Brexit til at least the end of this year.

Might be helpful for those like Molino who have been rejected because of lack of the B1?

If it's 'on hold' rather than rejected you are ok.  Some Preffettura offices are doing this (assuming you pressed the button to apply a while ago).  If it's actually been rejected in theory you have to wait a year to reapply for Citizenship.  Hopefully, it's on hold and if they seem happy to accept your current documents it would imply that. 
I don't think anything has changed about getting Citizenship Applications in by the 29th March if you applying under EU residency rules.  But since things are changing by the second and the Italian government I imagine is bewildered with it all, who the hell knows??!!!!  And how the offices who are actually dealing with these applications can keep up....it's a mess.
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General Discussion / Re: Citizenship News
« Last post by iggle piggle on Yesterday at 12:38:39 PM »
Were your children born in Italy Iggle Piggle?  Although Italian citizenship rights are passed via Jus Sanguines I understand that children born on Italian soil can in some way 'fast track' citizenship. Those not having to wait until they are 18. Or something like that.
No they weren't which is why I'm having to do what I'm doing.
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General Discussion / Re: Citizenship News
« Last post by Olive Oyl on March 18, 2019, 02:24:07 PM »
In case this is useful info - my citizenship application which was accepted got annulled. I got a call this morning from the Prefettura being very helpful but apologetic saying that I didn't actually have the required level but that as soon as I passed the exam and got the right certificate, I could re-apply and all the existing documents would still be valid as long as I do it before mid June.

I said that that would be after Brexit though and I would no longer be an EU citizen - they said I would still be eligible to apply as I would still have all the same rights as now so it would be no problem.

I assume that this is thanks to the Italian government's legislation protecting UK citizen's rights even with a no deal Brexit til at least the end of this year.

Might be helpful for those like Molino who have been rejected because of lack of the B1?
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General Discussion / Re: Citizenship News
« Last post by Tartufa on March 18, 2019, 06:50:01 AM »
Were your children born in Italy Iggle Piggle?  Although Italian citizenship rights are passed via Jus Sanguines I understand that children born on Italian soil can in some way 'fast track' citizenship. Those not having to wait until they are 18. Or something like that.
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General Discussion / Re: Citizenship News
« Last post by iggle piggle on March 17, 2019, 02:27:44 PM »
Once I get citizenship, as long as my children are still considered minors (I think under 18) the will automatically also obtain dual citizenship without having to apply separately. So in effect, they can obtain Italian passports.  If they are no longer minors (which for one of them this might end up being the case as they now have up to 4 years to decide your case!!), they would have to apply in their own right.  This was confirmed by an International lawyer I spoke to.

You have to be an EU citizen to have the right to free movement, not just resident.  I believe a request was made to the EU to allow Brits like us with residency in one of the EU countries (non-UK obviously) to continue to have our right to free movement but Brussels turned this down.  The UK government obviously thought it could cherry-pick!

Olive Oyl:  You might get lucky...! Who knows.

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General Discussion / Re: Citizenship News
« Last post by Relaxed on March 17, 2019, 12:55:36 AM »
So, iggle piggle, do your children automatically become Italian (EU) citizens if you manage, yourself, to achieve that status? Or do they have to make an application on their own behalf - and if so, are they old enough to do so?
I understand (and totally commend) your desire to ensure that your children have the same 'status in the world' which we Brits all enjoy currently.
As I read it, in EU law, as dependants of a 'union citizen', which you hope to become, they will be able to piggyback on your rights concerning residency, but I am less than convinced that they will be covered by 'freedom of movement' unless they too change their nationality.
I'm sure you have researched this stuff (and I haven't managed to study the link you provided), so I'd like to have your take on this.
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General Discussion / Re: Citizenship News
« Last post by Olive Oyl on March 16, 2019, 05:59:04 PM »
I too have just applied for citizenship. I don't have aB1 certificate but I have A2 which I took just in case just before the referendum. When I read about the requirement for B1, I applied to take the exam which is in a month's time and I attached the A2 certificate together with the confirmation of my exam entry enrolment and my citizenship application has been accepted so far. That doesn't mean it won't get thrown out further down the line, but shows that so far anyway, a lower certificate seems to be ok with them. I might need to provide the B1, assuming I pass  :( It will be interesting to see if I get asked for it down the long and no doubt very winding road!  ::)
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General Discussion / Re: Citizenship News
« Last post by iggle piggle on March 15, 2019, 12:05:36 PM »
I agree that it's really only worth the effort if you have a particular reason.  I am personally pursuing it so that my children, having grown up in Italy, will then regain their right to free movement and have the same opportunities in the future as Italian kids currently do. 
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