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General finance / Re: New Import Tax
« Last post by Rustychain on August 24, 2018, 10:10:21 PM »Sounds like a scam.
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General finance / Re: New Import Tax
« Last post by Relaxed on August 24, 2018, 12:40:42 PM »You are sending these household goods out of the UK into Italy?
You have paid VAT on the goods, and they were bought in the UK? They are your personal property, for your own use in Italy?
If the above statements are true you should not have to pay any 'import duty'.
I can see why SALCIM has concentrated on VAT (because of the 22% rate quoted), but if your shipper is calling it 'import duty' it doesn't make any sense to me.
The UK is still in the EU.
You have paid VAT on the goods, and they were bought in the UK? They are your personal property, for your own use in Italy?
If the above statements are true you should not have to pay any 'import duty'.
I can see why SALCIM has concentrated on VAT (because of the 22% rate quoted), but if your shipper is calling it 'import duty' it doesn't make any sense to me.
The UK is still in the EU.
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General finance / Re: New Import Tax
« Last post by GeordieBorn on August 24, 2018, 09:17:10 AM »Salcim's post looks spot on to me if it's personal effects already bought in the UK sometime back i.e. household goods, then I would suggest to the Company they have it wrong (trying in on).
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General finance / Re: New Import Tax
« Last post by SALCIM on August 24, 2018, 08:45:20 AM »The following link might help:https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/vat-customs/cross-border/index_en.htm
In principle a VAT registered company who sells goods to a consumer in Italy needs to have a VAT registration in Italy and should charge the Italian VAT rate, but no UK VAT is charged. However, if they are not registered in Italy (and they export less than €35000 worth of goods per annum in Italy) then it gets a bit more complicated. What most people do is buy their items in the UK and pay UK VAT and the items then become personal effects. If you then ship them to Italy the goods are then "in free circulation within the EU" and you do not need to declare them, which I guess is what most people do. It's a bit of a moot point as if you ship them "brand new" and in their packaging etc., it could be argued that the Italian rate of VAT should be paid. However, your supplier is incorrect to say that there is a a "new import tax on personal effects of 22%" - there is a VAT rate of 22% in Italy and if your supplier has tax registered in Italy then they will charge you the 22% VAT (but no UK VAT) if they are arranging the shipping to Italy for you - there are no "new" taxes. Hope that helps a bit, but others here might also have advice.
In principle a VAT registered company who sells goods to a consumer in Italy needs to have a VAT registration in Italy and should charge the Italian VAT rate, but no UK VAT is charged. However, if they are not registered in Italy (and they export less than €35000 worth of goods per annum in Italy) then it gets a bit more complicated. What most people do is buy their items in the UK and pay UK VAT and the items then become personal effects. If you then ship them to Italy the goods are then "in free circulation within the EU" and you do not need to declare them, which I guess is what most people do. It's a bit of a moot point as if you ship them "brand new" and in their packaging etc., it could be argued that the Italian rate of VAT should be paid. However, your supplier is incorrect to say that there is a a "new import tax on personal effects of 22%" - there is a VAT rate of 22% in Italy and if your supplier has tax registered in Italy then they will charge you the 22% VAT (but no UK VAT) if they are arranging the shipping to Italy for you - there are no "new" taxes. Hope that helps a bit, but others here might also have advice.
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General finance / New Import Tax
« Last post by NigelandSue on August 23, 2018, 11:44:07 PM »I'm planning to ship a container of furnishings, etc. out to Italy.
I've just been told by the UK shipper that a new 22% import tax on personal effects has just come into force.
Has anyone else heard anything about this?
Do you know where I can find out more details?
Is this even legal under EU legislation?
Thanks,
Nigel
I've just been told by the UK shipper that a new 22% import tax on personal effects has just come into force.
Has anyone else heard anything about this?
Do you know where I can find out more details?
Is this even legal under EU legislation?
Thanks,
Nigel
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Residency / Re: Carta d'identita fingerprints
« Last post by Riso on July 23, 2018, 12:48:00 PM »Same as mine Levi just got new ID for new comuni thats bad enough wont tell you what we had to do to change ASL. Stone tablets seem a better alterative..
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Residency / Re: Carta d'identita fingerprints
« Last post by levissima on July 23, 2018, 10:13:46 AM »I’ll be really interested to see how my comune copes with this technological innovation. They’ve only just upgraded from stone tablets to a dot matrix printer.
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Residency / Carta d'identita fingerprints
« Last post by Relaxed on July 22, 2018, 07:05:12 PM »A friend (UK) recently needed to renew his Italian carta d'identita, and was surprised to be asked to provide fingerprints.
These are taken, digitally, at the comune offices, if the comune is already doing 'electronic' cards. (Some comunes are not yet signed up to electronic cards, but they all will be before too long.)
You get a plastic card as well, with your photo on it, for the usual purposes, and this does not have your fingerprint on it. The fingerprints are held on a ministry of the interior database.
I checked. It's not discrimination against 'foreigners' - any Italian over the age of 12 also has to provide fingerprints for these 'electronic' cards. They are sometimes referred to as biometric cards.
These are taken, digitally, at the comune offices, if the comune is already doing 'electronic' cards. (Some comunes are not yet signed up to electronic cards, but they all will be before too long.)
You get a plastic card as well, with your photo on it, for the usual purposes, and this does not have your fingerprint on it. The fingerprints are held on a ministry of the interior database.
I checked. It's not discrimination against 'foreigners' - any Italian over the age of 12 also has to provide fingerprints for these 'electronic' cards. They are sometimes referred to as biometric cards.
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General finance / Re: Private House purchase between UK citizens in Italy
« Last post by old timer on July 19, 2018, 11:42:35 AM »If you are going to cut out the estate agent etc. please bear in mind that, I think I am correct in saying all bills electric, gas, mortgage belong to the house not the person. so if there are bills unpaid then they will be down to the owner. This can transfer to the new owner. I am sure If I am wrong somebody will correct it.
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General finance / Re: Private House purchase between UK citizens in Italy
« Last post by GeordieBorn on July 19, 2018, 11:26:50 AM »I also would get in touch with a Notaio for concrete advice. We used this guy mfaieta@notariato.it (Marco Faieta). He speaks English and give us advice before buying via email, mind you he is based in Pineto. Oddly enough we were told just recently it is possible to use GBP, but you still have to use the official exchange at the point of sale to have Euro in the documentation. I would imagine you will also need the same evidence/number/reference of the transactions made.