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Sales and purchases / Re: Selling your house in Italy
« Last post by Vignaverde on September 14, 2017, 06:47:47 AM »
Another good investment would be student rent in Pescara PJM. You get excellent rent though the year then usually you boot the students out for most of june, all of july and august then take these months as holiday rentals.  :)
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Sales and purchases / Re: Selling your house in Italy
« Last post by PJM on September 14, 2017, 01:46:21 AM »
We all make mistakes when following our hearts but I think buying any house(home) and also in Abruzzo is similar to buying in the Uk apart from(investment ) we don't have the background knowledge of the Italy and we are usually in the sun and in a hurry. In the Uk we have time to ask about the area ,check the prices ( thats hard in Abruzzo ). I have sat in my car for hours outside a cottage I wanted to buy in the UK ..looking to see the neighbours , vans parking etc Not that time when buying abroad.

I never bought in Italy expecting the price to rise like the Uk ..it wasn't an investment a dream.it has been a good investment and several past renters have asked to buy it ..no way am I selling yet, I will wait until my I can't climb the steps onto Ryainair.

 I meet people from the Uk who are doing up houses in the village as an investment ..I usually reply think carefully it's not an investment like the UK ..if you want an investment then buy a student house in the UK !!

I just think after friends talking who are full time in Italy it's the British things they miss especially in the winter , cinema , theatre etc . Well if you ask me what I would miss about the UK it's village life and the WI ..family ! So many times I think about moving full time to Italy but something stops me ..but on the grey winter days or times I have been in the wet Uk in August I could jump on a plane .
So if you do move back to the Uk it's just like living Italy and if you don't find the right place..buy and be short of money  it could be as disappointing as living in Italy as for some of you who post on this site  ..apart from you will have rain and not the sun.
I am sure the area has many successful stories and many that are not successful  ..thats life !!
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Sales and purchases / Re: Selling your house in Italy
« Last post by levissima on September 13, 2017, 11:29:14 PM »
My post wasn't directed at you David, just a general observation.
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Sales and purchases / Re: Selling your house in Italy
« Last post by David Kaylene on September 13, 2017, 09:57:21 PM »
Hi Cassius,
If and when I am in a position to make a full time move here I will jump at the chance and if circumstances change and I had to leave, it would also be with a heavy heart. I come here on average once a month for 4-5 days and hate leaving. I agree most people don't buy to flip and make money and I haven't either. I bought because I liked the area and the people I met and the culture and I could go on.
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Sales and purchases / Re: Selling your house in Italy
« Last post by Cassius on September 13, 2017, 09:17:07 PM »
Hi levissima,
I wasn't arguing with anyone I didn't comment to even cause an argument. I was only stating my thoughts and I have not compared the market here to the UK in any way. I stated that if you know what you are doing you can flip houses in pretty much any country.

Thing is that the vast majority of people who buy a property here don't do so in order to "flip" it. They buy because they fall in love with the region and want to make a life here.  Some of us have found that harder to achieve than others and have sold and/or moved on - but usually with a heavy heart. 
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Sales and purchases / Re: Selling your house in Italy
« Last post by David Kaylene on September 13, 2017, 08:56:02 PM »
Hi levissima,
I wasn't arguing with anyone I didn't comment to even cause an argument. I was only stating my thoughts and I have not compared the market here to the UK in any way. I stated that if you know what you are doing you can flip houses in pretty much any country.
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Sales and purchases / Re: Selling your house in Italy
« Last post by levissima on September 13, 2017, 07:20:18 PM »
There's no point arguing about it, we all have different experiences and circumstances.

I've known both people who have done well and who have lost when selling here but, whilst I accept VVs expertise, based on a much more experienced assessment of the market, I don't think you can compare the market here to the one in the UK. The UK housing market is completely different to the one here.
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Sales and purchases / Re: Selling your house in Italy
« Last post by David Kaylene on September 13, 2017, 02:25:01 PM »
Hi Geordieborn,
Yes it is a subject which I am passionate about. In the UK I know the flipping houses business well and all I am saying is you can do this pretty much anywhere if you are in the know but most people from my limited experience in abruzzo have like I said, bought into the lifestyle just like me.
Hi David, yes it is me. I hope you are well, I haven't seen you for over a year so must catch up at some point. And to be clear. I only speak as I feel and on this occasion I mainly agree with VV but trust me when I say if I disagree on a post that I have read, regardless who it is I would express my view.  Who from or where in abruzzo I bought my property from is irrelevant.
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Sales and purchases / Re: Selling your house in Italy
« Last post by Vignaverde on September 13, 2017, 11:34:12 AM »
Hi Geordie Born. If David is who I think he is then yes he did buy a property from me a few years ago. If I wanted to be so obvious I would bombard the site with many clients. I presume you are not accusing me of asking people to back me up because I do not need to do this. I have been on this forum for many many years and I have never asked anyone to back me up and never would, I repeat, I do not need to.

I haven't seen David in a while if indeed it is the person I think,  great to hear from you !   :)

I often get trampled on by some on here which is fine, I have very broad shoulders. The problem is SOME people will not see another side to a story, I try and put this across not because I want to sell houses (oooh look a cheap plug) but because I think it is good for the forum and so do others, I contribute like everyone else whenever I can and about many subjects. On this subject I have over 10 years experience and counting, I too can be dismissive about a handful of people you know but this is not the point. If you choose not to consider my opinion then that is your right just in the same way I am giving mine and have done for around 9 years.

What I will say and this is not rehearsed between the two of us but the point David makes about people who 'buy for the lifestyle and the whole journey that comes with it'  is a very good one.   
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Sales and purchases / Re: Selling your house in Italy
« Last post by GeordieBorn on September 13, 2017, 11:15:47 AM »
Welcome David. A member since 9th June 2016 and your first post, it really must be a subject close to your heart (and wallet perhaps) ;D It would be nice to have more of your insight into the buying and selling aspect of the region. I have to admit to reading VVs post and being a little dismissive of a one off vote for making a profit here. Post here in this thread and many older posts support the opposite, as does many on several other forums Ive been reading for a number of years now sad I know.
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